Submitting Done - Engineers Plans Online

13/2/2019

Today is the 13th of February and to many of you happy Chap Goh Mei / Chap Gor Mei / Chap Go May fuck it Happy CGM.

However last week on the 5th of February, yes on Chinese New Year, I met my draftsman at Kanna Curry House in Section 17 in Petaling Jaya. I signed off with my wife 10 copies of our Building Plans submissions.

Today though, my Arhictect signs off on all the plans as well and we have a date set with MBPJ for submitting all our documents in for Hardcopy purposes. We will do it on the 15th of February.

15/2/2019

Draftsman submits all hard copies in to MBPJ, if you dont know what they are ? read the previous blog rather than eating avacado toast you lowyat hipsters.

24/3/2019

Submissions Online done for Engineers Plans here is what you need to see. Here is what it looks like

This is called the A15 Submission which is issentitally for your Land Works. Just 17 documents, something lowyatt people within the first 1.5 days out of 3 days to get MBPJ Approvals will encounter

And this is your A 21 Submissions, only 17 documents, Pelan Jalan dan Perparitan. Wow, just to build a little semi detached in petaling jaya, requires all sorts of shit huh

Well at least things now are approved online. Here are the approvals received online

A15 Gets approved by MBPJ for Kerja Tanah

A21 Gets approved for Pelan Jalan dan Perparitan from MBPJ

How much did all of this cost ? About RM 2,600.00 for me.

And we have not even gone through the OSC Meeting yet for the Engineers Submissions. 

Then comes Architect / Draftsmans submissions once Engineers submissions have been approved. 

If I dont get my approval for the next OSC Meeting, I might need to wait another month I guess. At this point, I have to be realistic, by October, If I cant knock down this place, I might have to just live in it.  

Well I have been busy as of late, and knowing that Ramadhan is coming up shortly, I doubt any progress will happen at this upcoming month till after June.

Things are moving slowly again. But one really needs the patience I guess. 

Building Plans Submission Process

Happy New Year everyone and yes its now the 29th of January as I post this. Im a little hung over from last nights indulgence with family. How has the year been for you so far lowyatt folks ? Pretty sure Chinese New Year a week from now will be seeing a lot and I mean a fucking LOT of fireworks considering how lowyatt folks are taking this year seriously. Painting houses (front walls minimum), taking 10 - 14 days leave, and the traffic jams are back like how it was 6 years ago. Last year was pathetic. And we all know why this year has cause for celebration.

Now here comes the Building Plan. We have begun to submit our building plan stage and as it turns out, theres more paper work and running around still left. In this chapter Im going to cover the steps for what MBPJ Building Plans require

1. Waste Management Approval
2. Online Submissions
3. Hardcopy Submissions
4. Engineers Plans
5. Approval

Not as easy as A-B-C,.. Hor ?

Lets start with whats required for the Sisa Pepejal stage.

1. WASTE MANAGEMENT APPROVAL

What you will need :

a. Survey Plans

b. Architects Plans

This is just to determine that those orange bins for an example has enough space for your refuse / waste area. Took 1 week to get things approved. Your height of your refuse / waste area should be 5 ft in height. Thats the requirement to fit your almost 4.5ft bin.


2. ONLINE SUBMISSIONS

What you will need :

a. Grant

b. S&P Agreement (Front Cover, Inner first page and last page)

c. Kelulusan KM (Full Scanned Document)

d. Architects Plans

e. Survey Plans

f. Cukai Tanah (Latest)

g. Cukai Pintu (Latest)

h. 3d Perspective - minimum 2 views

i. Surat Sumpah & Perakuan Kerja Kerja Binaan Belum / Telah Dimulakan (Non Work Commence
Letter signed by Commissioner for Oaths)

j. Method Statement - made by your contractor to describe how demolition and clearing is done

k. Dilapidation Survey (Applicable if you are Demolishing and Rebuilding)

l. Meeting Minutes with Neighbours (Applicable if you are a Bungalow being Demolished and Rebuilding, not applicable to Semi Detached, and Terrance Houses)

and last but not least, dont forget...

m. IC



Easy right ? Like A-B-C can get haus worrrrr. Cheras can approve 2 days only hor. Im not going to post my plans, and the Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang etc from MBPJ because thats been covered already, but heres the SURAT SUMPAH & PERAKUAN KERJA KERJA BINAAN BELUM / TELAH DIMULAKAN from MBPJ

*** Just to take note, I doubt you need a METHOD STATEMENT if you are just doing simple renovations below 1000 sq. ft. So Skip the METHOD STATEMENT if you are not Demolishing and Rebuilding like me. If you are, then you can view below where I have shown what a METHOD STATEMENT looks like when you are Demolishing and Rebuilding as MBPJ's Building Plans requires you to submit. This is only prepared by your contractor. ****

This process is pretty much like the OSC Online and MBPJ for your House Renovation. Online first, dapat kelulusan aaaa, baru hard copy.

Sumpah again, sumpah after sumpah. However Cheras folks would have started work first, then when the approval for Building Plans come, the work will be halfway done on their property. One guy on Jalan SS3/29 has done exactly that. Only KM Approved, but work has already started. Must be from lowyatt.

And here is something else I have not posted that a contractor helped us do. Because I kind of know him and he helped out. This is called your METHOD STATEMENT. This describes what will be needed to be done for demolishing your property or as lowyatt folks like to call HAUS.

Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

If you try looking up any samples of this on MBPJ through key words online, it wont lead you anywhere. This is why lowyatt folks are just as stupid as chicken heads online because they too cant show on their forums what things look like.  

But with my key words, I hope you will be able to find this useful here. Now lowyatt folks will be able to talk in the chat rooms of how their knowledge is very God Status like.

Oh, heres a bonus for you all, I just received the latest 3d renderings for submission. While 2 copies are the minimum, was able to submit for 3 

The guy who rendered this must have done too many Cheras and Puchong homes. Even the draftsman was like,...uhmmm,.....interesting style choice for colours and accents. And we had a small laugh. Fuck it, Im using this for submissions only. What are those Fugly grey accents though ? Looks so cheap that if I wonder if I showed this to a contractor and said "YES I WANT THAT GREY THING ON THE WALLS" I will get a cheaper price ? Something too elegant in presentation that should be cheaper could ask for a higher construction cost. 

Wont you just look at that roof that I had to flip thanks to MBPJ - kena nampak seragam dgn. jiran

Now for those of you who were wondering why I had a gaping hole in the middle of the roof in my design, it was so that I could take advantage of the surroundings. Sunway Serene thats being built nearby, icon city, a park, trees etc. But the main reason was because I could have this water tank area serve as a place I could have my drinks. Gin, Vodka, Whiskies, (thats right lowyatt kids, its not whiskey, its Whisky) and other beverages. Coincidentally one of my favorite architects Fabian Tan recently did a single storey home in petaling jaya that has a similar concept. Fuck me. I like his work. I truly do... though, not all hipster like every speak easy bar - coffee cafe Seksan. Also, it should be known that many houses in Petaling Jaya really loose out on such views by putting a shitty water tank platform without seeing the view they get. Some views are really spectacular. Theres a house next to Decanter in Section 17 that has the tiniest water tank platform, and it loses out on views such section 16, hills, and other Petaling Jaya towers as well. Unbelievable. If you dont believe me, go to Decanter in section 17, go upstairs where the smoking area is, you will see this water tank on the roof of the house Im talking about. Its right next to Decanter. Unbelievable.  

3. HARDCOPY SUBMISSIONS

What you will need :

All the above will be submitted in Hardcopy format once the Online Approval Stage for Building Plans at MBPJ is approved. Here, you will need to sign off on the Architects Plans and your Architect will then submit this to MBPJ. Because town councils and the government love keeping paper work in their steel files in their buildings with fluorescent lights and blacked out tinted windows. Kan ?

4. ENGINEERS PLANS

What you will need :

Engineers Plans submitted by your Engineer.

Once the Hardcopy Submissions have been approved, you are still not out of the woods, because the Jabatan Kejuruteraan section at MBPJ's Building Plans department will need your Engineers Plans for approval before allowing any approvals to move on. Its simple, one department looks at just the plans, the other looks and the engineering side of things. 

Here are a couple of pages of mine

Yup, Ill have to sign off on these things when it comes to the Building Plans submissions for MBPJ's Jabatan Kejuruteraan. 

5. APPROVAL

Then can get haus in 7 days lorrrr. Like Lowyatt A-B-C easy lorrrr.

Now theres nothing much I can do, as Im waiting for the 2nd image of the 3d perspective to arrive on my laps and while one of the contractors is helping me with the whole Method Statement that is needed by the contractor. 

So it looks like hard working lowyatt folks during this time will have nothing much to do as its now literally 1 week before Chinese New Year.

Nothing moves. So till the next posting that will take place after Chinese New Year, wishing all folks a Happy Chinese New Year. Dont be a hipster and dont surf lowyatt too much. Take it easy on the Cristal as we know you are all hard working with your 3pm take off work schedules.

Till after CNY 2019,....

Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Complete ! The Season Finale

Today is the 29th of November, today marks the end of all the paper work, chasing, calling, holidays and all the sorts of hair loss problems I have had so far. TODAY, Step 1 is Officially Closed. No more Kebenaran Merancang with MBPJ to deal with for our House Renovation / Demolition. You think this was all easy to do ? Sure it was lowyatt folks, now you can piggy back on the free information about to be given with those who have read this blog.

What I am about to do, is show you what the Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ looks like when you are renovating / demolishing a house above 1,000 square feet. This way, only idiots will remain online with lowyatt folks. All those questions that one may have about what are the rules, regulations, terms, conditions, working hours etc. may all be viewed BELOW, not on lowyatt so that YOU, will know better, the truth and nothing less of it.

However, if you have discovered this blog, I have hardly or minimal holds barred. THIS, Ladies and Gents, is what your Surat Kebenaran Merancang from MBPJ looks like when it gets approved, and THIS, Ladies and Gents is your Pengesahan Kebenaran Merancang (Validation Letter) that will allow YOU, yes YOU and all to know what it took, the head aches, documents, rejects, and time taken that was supposed to be easy, but didnt. Because lowtayy chai latte avacado toast hipsters who face the simplest heart aches of even dropping a pen down to the floor to find an excuse to take a 3 week holiday for, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT TAKES.

To the people who have called in, observing from a distance, and gaining any knowledge or experience as a guideline through this blog, I hope you will never suffer the same fate as me. All the questions you may have online while looking at chat rooms for MBPJ House Renovations Rules, Terms and Conditions, may be also used as a reference below help assist your needs further.

Without further adiue, I present to you, the Surat Kebenaran Mercancang MBPJ (Development Order Approval by MBPJ) and its Pengesahan Surat Kebenaran Merancang (Development Order Validation).

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 1 : Your Cover Note addressed to your Town Planner

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 2 : (cont.)

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 3 : Terms and Conditions (cont. next 9 pages)

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 4 : Read on

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 5 : Safety and Engineering Department Terms

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 6 : Ramp, gates etc.

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 7 : Before work commences, your letter with the Commissioner for Oaths

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 8 : Stop work Order, and what does it say about Workers quarters ? Now you know next time when your Cheras styles neighbours who build houses and let workers stay inside, you need an approval first, without one, lodge a complaint. 

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 9 : Workers safety etc.

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 10 : Nyamuk Aedes ade ke ? Takpe, developer orang Cheras, selalu dekat lowyatt

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 11 : Waste Management

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 12 : Law and Order, something Cheras people really know well and abide by

Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 13 : The date the MBPJ Planning Department approved by person of high authority.

Remember, there are 10 plans to be Endorsed in the tail end of the Kebenaran Mercancang MBPJ process ? Well here is one of them that will be affixed to your Surat Kebenaran Merancang

But hang on Kids ! We have more ! We are not done yet ! Remember 13 pages ago, there still the Pengesahan Kebenaran Merancang ? Of course you forgot ! You lowyatt hipsters were taking a break at 3 pm to call it quits for the day. You hard working people =)

Lets take a look shall we, unless you have gone on holiday because your feelings got too hurt by accidentally letting a pen drop to the floor. Poor lowyatt hipsters, just cant take it nowadays. Not built tough I tell ya. Damn ukulele listening ma fackas. 

Heres your Pengesahan Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ or Development Order Validation by MBPJ. A Pengesahan, on the Surat Kebenaran Merancang. Should just be 1 document if you ask me, An approval FOR whats been approved. Huh ? You sure you are Sure ?

Pengesahan Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 1 : Says once again who my wife and I are, lot number, etc etc. for the 259th time

Pengesahan Surat Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ Page 2 : This has been approved by the relevant departments. 

Also affixed will be a copy of your plans endorsed by the MBPJ Planning Department

And,..... thats all =). Done. Finish. 

What do you do now ? You email this immediately to your :-

1. Architect

2. Draftman

3. Engineer

So that they can begin the next step of Pelan Bangunan MBPJ. And now wait 3 to 4 more months if they have not been fully prepared to submit their documents, or it could just take 3 to 4 more months, cant give a fuck anymore, but I hope all will be well by February 2019 to knock the fucker down.

Some may have a questions in their gut that asks, "can I stomach this ? Is it really worth it ? Do I have the stamina and endurance to do this ? What will it cost me ? "

and the hardest question of all :  " Its 1 year to get this step done". 

Do you even know what the feeling is like ? BRUH ? when you ask that question ? 1 year just for 1 fuckin step ? Not lowyatt hipsters. You got to be brave to take this kind of a step.

To me, it has taught me a lot about myself, breaking down, building myself up again, drive to push forward with idiots and holidays. But this is what I can share. With MBPJ you must know that they are really REALLY a slow bunch with NO Urgency, no 6 months can get approval wan wor. Im sure you can, if you have a quarter of the gift of brains from a lowyatt folk, but not me. 

Would I do it again ?

You bet I would, and know YOU and I know now what to look for. I only hope that whoever discovers this blog. I am more experienced now, and YOU and I now know what to look  for that delays shit  :-

- Holidays and fucking holidays. Paired well with an election year = fuck me.

- Observing when to submit things and mastering that

- Run some events concurrently to save time

Why did I do it ?

If you had a feeling that things were not going to go well anyway, the least you can do is share your experience / blog / write a book / lowyatt about your worries OR do something about it. But I am here, standing as a lone wolf by myself. For the other wolves that would like to take this on, here is my path I share with you. 

I blog here because it shows not only what it takes, and took, but what to look out for. I left no rock unmarked, no stone unturned, river uncrossed, if I am missing something, then you best let me know, cause lowyatt folks aint got SHIT to tell me for advise otherwise. 

I dont keep to myself, I dont "pm me 4 mo info on da side " I share for anyone and everyone who wants to walk down this path. And if you are just like me, I am glad we know each other better now. Anyway, someones gotta lead the way than lowyatt folks in the chat rooms giving incomplete information. Right ? In this day and age, in Petaling Jaya, wanting to renovate or rebuild and you cant get information online EVEN from MBPJ thoroughly the complete steps, then someone has got to document it.

Exactly how I feel right now. No Im not a Husky, you STUPID Cheras lowyatt folks

What happens next ?

I wait for my Engineers Plans, so I can send it to contractors to receive quotes like Mr. Eng Hoe and Mr. Eric. And so I can also get my Building Plan / Pelan Bangunan submissions with MBPJ on the way.

Ong Ong Mali Ong ! CNY 2019 Contractor Con !

How will this blog change now ?

From here, there will be 2 topics that will run concurrently, the topics will be Pelan Bangunan MBPJ or Building Plans MBPJ Submissions, and the Contractors. Cause while the Building Plans are being submitted, its time to ask contractors for quotes so that a decision for a contractor can be approved in conjunction with Building Plan approvals.

I hope the Building Plans will not take that long as the Kebenaran Merancang is a pre approval process by itself. One contractor says about 3 months. Lets see.

Next week, its all about the Engineers Plans, thank you all for watching this blog, secretly while eating your avacado toast and chai lattes, I really enjoyed the time here. I am going to celebrate a little tonight.

With this I say the Season Finale has officially ended with the Kebenaran Merancang process for House Renovations with MBPJ.

Thank you once again and stay tuned.

Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang

Today is the 28th of November. It is a good day, it means that not only did I get married 6 years ago, but also my Wife and I got the news that we have finally completed the whole process of MBPJ's Kebenaran Merancang / Development Order.

It has taken the best of 11 months, and 5 days to be exact ever since I first met the MBPJ officer (23rd December 2017) and today, things are finally over. No more shitty work. However lowyatt hipsters can get everything done like A-B-C in 3 days.

The process here finally is complete. Tonight, I may rejoice with some drinks, and say thank you God, I have come this far which has been the hardest, toughest, and longest part of getting approvals sorted.

I will be posting again tomorrow to show you all what I will receive as documents and what will be needed to be done. The Structural Engineer is almost done for the submissions for the Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan for MBPJ, our Architect and Draftsman are all ready as well to do more work, and by that its more paper work for MBPJ and their love for it. Just posting a quick one here for a joyous occassion. Our topic in the weeks that follow will shift to about contractors and the Pelan Bangunan / Building Plan's process. Lowyatt hipsters definitely will be looking forward to this.

For you lowyatt hipsters, stay tuned because your God status online will just about to get bigger and more knowledgeable once you view my final documents for the Kebenaran Merancang at MBPJ  while eating your avacado toast and chai latte. Then you can "pm me on da side 4 more info" all you want. So glad this process is finally over, stay tuned as I will be showing you tomorrow what are the full documents received for the final Kebenaran Merancang approval from MBPJ.

Stay Tuned for the Season Finale of MBPJ's Kebenaran Merancang for Home Renovations 2019. It is bound to be an extra special one. I will make sure of that. So please view the next posting tomorrow as it goes up. =)

Meanwhile, Happy Belated Diwali for the month of November. To all, may the Christmas Trees come up the next day as always  =) So courteous Cheras Lowyatt folks are. Because nothing beats Diwali like Christmas Trees being put up the same time.

MBPJ Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang + Endorsement House Renovation

Its the 25th of October, 5 days before the General Meeting at MBPJ. I have some news now.

I met the MBPJ officer who hands me 3 kinds of documents :-

10 copies of the Plans, 
Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang & 
Surat Aku Janji to be endorsed by a Commissioner for Oaths.

Turns out MBPJ like any Malaysian Government organization, loves more and more paper work.

I received the documents, I signed them, my wife signs them.

1. ENDORSEMENT PLANS - 10 COPIES

10 Plans, because 1 is just not enough. Highligted in Red on all 10 plans are the conditions of the Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang / Development Order Approval

2. KELULUSAN KEBENARAN MERANCANG MBPJ

I am also handed a document for my Development Order Approval / Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang that has a 14 page document, (yes more pages) inclusive of a SURAT AKU JANJI to which I had to go to a commissioner for oaths to get acknowledged as well.

Now what this says here is basically the Rules and Regulations of what to expect. Its about 10 pages long. Covers everything from  your Work Hours during construction thats from 8 AM to 6 PM max Monday to Sunday (like anybody follows or obeys doing plastering work on Sundays) to things like your Heavy Trucks running on your roads etc. that needs approvals (like any contractor seriously applies). Anyway it has all sorts of stuff which a contractor will ask you to even take Insurance for. Why ? Because just in case something happens, you the Developer, will be liable.

When you receive this document, read it carefully. It will explain all the terms and conditions and remedies as well. These conditions are also mentioned on the 10 Endorsement Plans.

Here are some examples :

The front page is actually attention-ed to the Town Planner for our Home. But this document belongs to you.

Some of the conditions or "Syarat" that mention the total height of the building permitted 

 In this condition it mentions your working hours permitted and the notice board to put up when you start demolishing / renovating your premise

3. SURAT AKU JANJI (Bust out an acapella guys, "I sweaaaar, by the moon and the stars and the ..."


This letter will be given to you. You will need to find a Commissioner of Oaths, anyone will do, from anywhere. Even from Klang, its alright. It is to ensure you agree to the terms of the Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ for your House Renovations.

Once this document is signed, the MBPJ Officer will take it back. So make a copy.

What does it look like ? Here it is below for Lowyat folks :-

So I had to go to the Commissioner for Oaths the next day. From what I can say, I could recommend this place :

Need a Commisioner for Oaths in PJ ? Lowyatt folks can go to SS2 to this place. Fast, quick, and cost 4 bucks for your documents to be chopped and signed

This lady maam works super fast, was in and out in 5 minutes. To get your Commissioner of Oaths signature from here, the cost was just 4 bucks.


So that got taken cared of this morning.


Now I have

1. Handed back these documents back to the MBPJ Officer who will then - 
2. Submit this back to the -
3. Town Planner who will sign them and then - 
4. Submit it back to the - 
5. Planning Department at MBPJ who will then 
6. Get the plans endorsed by the Director and assistant Director of MBPJ's Planning Department.

And then, yes then my chai latte avacado toast lowyatt hipsters, THEN, we are DONE with Kebenaran Merancang and it will be finally over.

When that happens ? Ill certainly treat myself to one of those lowyatt wagyu steaks that lowyatt folks and contractors have for dinner every evening at Marinis on 57.

Im guessing it will still take another month to complete the journey on the Kebenaran Merancang for our Home Renovation in Petaling Jaya, BUT Keep in mind, there is still the Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan that needs approval. But this will take 1 - 2 months in addition for approvals.

By Chinese New Year next year, or just after, We should have the place flattened. And with more hair loss that lowyat people will never understand with their ipads checking out this blog to get upgraded to God Status.



WHAT TO DO NOW :

1. ENGINEERS PLANS
Get this done NOW. As soon as you can, this is where remember our Soil Investigation done last year in August 2017 ? We will need to know what size of footings to use, ground, ceiling and floor beams.

The rush is now on to get your Engineers Plans.

The reason for this is because unlike Architects Plans that are only useful for ID hipsters who will begin imagining every generic over saturated hipster themed industrial ala nonya style theme with pathetic framed slogans and charge you for your lack of brain cells that were not created for being more creative, a hefty penny, (boy that was a handful), your ENGINEERS PLANS are what your CONTRACTORS NEED. 

I miss this red shirt dude I call Gus. Soil Penetration done in August 2017

You will need to submit this as fast as you can to your contractors so they will be able to quote you correctly based on the Engineers Plans. Submit your .dwg autocad drawings to the Engineer who will then start drawing the footings and beams etc.

The Engineer will also submit the Soil Investigation for Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan as well. The Soil Investigation report is a huge document. That I cant post all of it here. So the Soil Investigation Report was important after all. We are not building something out of guess work.

This is very important because you will need to move swiftly to point number 2 as well.


2. CONTACTORS
It is just about this stage when you must already have about 3 contractors in hand. I have chosen to look at 5 for comparison purposes to make a decision. So far I have found 3. All CIDB certified. No Eric and Eng Hoe's here.

Lai Lai Lai, Conman Contractor. I smell money in my pocket this 2019 CNY

If you cant find enough contractors that are CIDB certified, just head over to the CIDB website at the following link so you can look up contractors from G1 - even G7. In my case, I just need up to a G2 contractor that is allowed up to 500k for contracts. You can look up yourself what G1 - G7 means.

http://cimsapp.cidb.gov.my/SMIS/regcontractor/reglocalsearchcontractor.vbhtml

3. ARCHITECT
As soon as you sit down with your engineer, get your Architect ready as well for the plans to be submitted for your Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan.

Okay folks, I will only blog next when all is done. So its going to be about another month, end of November before things are all done. Please stay tuned as always.

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ALSO TO START LOOKING AT 

It is a good time to also start looking at 2 things. Electrical and Plumbing. They too will need to be CIDB Certified if you want your home to obtain a CCC( Certificate of Compliance and Completion)


ELECTRICAL 
Its not just about looking at how many lights, fans, airconds, water heaters and plug points that is important alone. You will need to know some knowledge about cables, wires, DB Boxes, MCB's Amps etc and what wire thicknesses you will like to use. And if there's any looping involved for switeches.

PLUMBING
A good time to start researching the different materials for your plumbing. Your material that you would like to use for your incoming hoses, water pump, what kind of plastics you would be using and where. Some pipes will just need a HDPE pipe for outdoors, most will use Class 6 / 7 UPVC for indoors. Lowyatt folks use Gold of course.

Even your sewage pipe materials that you would like to use will make a difference as well. So do some research. Lowyatt folks also use Gold for their sewage pipes too. Because their poop comes from Mount Olympus.

To this I will give lowyat credit where its due. There are many articles that have been covered on these things so Im not going to delve any further. Yes, the one and only time lowyatt folks get credit. Thats all.

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I wont blog any further till all is done with my Kebenaran Merancang officially. I will post again very soon. We will move into the Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan with MBPJ soon and have more to cover on this.

MBPJ OSC Meeting Approved Finally - Kelulusan Mesyuarat OSC

Its 6 45 PM, the 1st of October, the beginning of the last quarter of the year. I Just got a message from the MBPJ Officer saying that the OSC Meeting has had good news and my plans have been appoved.

Turns out that the OSC meeting was held in Johor this time. I guess it was probably due to the PKR Johor elections that caused council members to lend their support in Johor.

Looking at the OSC Online, nothing has been uploaded yet, but I hope there's something that gets posted soon to show you all.

Today I get to relax a moment.

Months of bitching, fighting, arguing and to get to this point have now come to some relief. Its not the end yet because down below, is some shitty news.

But its a relief that plans have been approved by those who matter most. That too without the help of our 58k Architect friends that said "My father MAY know someone on the board". 

WHAT NOW ?

Now, we have to wait for whats called a Mesyuarat Penuh Bulanan MBPJ that comes 1 time a month. Yes once a month. Yes, more waiting. Because waiting and paperwork is what Malaysians excel in life at Government offices :)

So it looks like another 4 weeks will have to pass by before that takes place. Traditionally it is no later than the 28th of every month. But it looks like I really have the best of all luck, for this month its on the 30th  :)

Yes, its on the 30th of October which is a whole month away. That could mean Im getting the full 67 days grunt of the MBPJ approval time :)


You can find the OSC and Mesyuarat Majlis meetings here at the following link every month :-

http://www.mbpj.gov.my/ms/rakyat/jadual-minit-mesyuarat

Its shitty that our OSC Meeting in Spetember was held 2 days AFTER the MBPJ Full Meeting. Now I will have to wait till the 30th of October. This makes up for a 33 day loss. Goyang telur la apa lagi ? Makan kuih minum teh

In Conclusion : Time your OSC Meeting and your MBPJ Full Meeting well.

Can you imagine if I had submitted my plans for the OSC meeting above on the 22nd, and could have got approvals by MBPJ Full meeting on the 30th. Thats just progress in 8 short days. As compared to my 33 day goyang telur wait.

These political issues this year have fucked things up pretty well. Which is very annoying.....no, frustrating. I have lost a total of over 30 days based on pre elections, 2 days post elections and now 33 days more.  

But Im sure lowyatt hipsters, Eng Hoe and Eric contractors can solve even an annual monthly meeting for you by the end of the day. Because they are Gods given knowledge to how the world works. 

See you guys again, just before the month ends. And to you lowyatt hipsters :- 

Que sound *** Door latch opens ***

- LEVEL UNLOCKED -

Now you lowyatt hipsters can do more "PM me on the side" after reading this from your Cheras bedrooms. :)



UPDATE : 3/10/2018

3rd October 2018, turns out that on the 2nd of October, OSC Online had uploaded their OSC Meeting Approval letter.

Dear lowyatt hipsters, this is just an update for your God status to be unlocked so you can now "PM Me On The Side"

It says 2nd October at 6 pm in the evening

Clicking on the feedback this is what it says

MBPJ OSC Online Approval Letter

Try looking up MBPJ OSC Meeting Kelulusan for House Renovations online. Im sure you will be able to find information on lowyatt.

Now folks, you must note here that with this letter, it only concludes what MBPJ OSC Councillors have approved my plans during their meeting.

Planning Department will officially send the Surat Kelulusan soon. They have after all, all the time in the world to do this before the 30th of October.

We have 4 more steps to go to complete Kebenaran Merancang now.