MBPJ Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang + Endorsement House Renovation

Its the 25th of October, 5 days before the General Meeting at MBPJ. I have some news now.

I met the MBPJ officer who hands me 3 kinds of documents :-

10 copies of the Plans, 
Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang & 
Surat Aku Janji to be endorsed by a Commissioner for Oaths.

Turns out MBPJ like any Malaysian Government organization, loves more and more paper work.

I received the documents, I signed them, my wife signs them.

1. ENDORSEMENT PLANS - 10 COPIES

10 Plans, because 1 is just not enough. Highligted in Red on all 10 plans are the conditions of the Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang / Development Order Approval

2. KELULUSAN KEBENARAN MERANCANG MBPJ

I am also handed a document for my Development Order Approval / Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang that has a 14 page document, (yes more pages) inclusive of a SURAT AKU JANJI to which I had to go to a commissioner for oaths to get acknowledged as well.

Now what this says here is basically the Rules and Regulations of what to expect. Its about 10 pages long. Covers everything from  your Work Hours during construction thats from 8 AM to 6 PM max Monday to Sunday (like anybody follows or obeys doing plastering work on Sundays) to things like your Heavy Trucks running on your roads etc. that needs approvals (like any contractor seriously applies). Anyway it has all sorts of stuff which a contractor will ask you to even take Insurance for. Why ? Because just in case something happens, you the Developer, will be liable.

When you receive this document, read it carefully. It will explain all the terms and conditions and remedies as well. These conditions are also mentioned on the 10 Endorsement Plans.

Here are some examples :

The front page is actually attention-ed to the Town Planner for our Home. But this document belongs to you.

Some of the conditions or "Syarat" that mention the total height of the building permitted 

 In this condition it mentions your working hours permitted and the notice board to put up when you start demolishing / renovating your premise

3. SURAT AKU JANJI (Bust out an acapella guys, "I sweaaaar, by the moon and the stars and the ..."


This letter will be given to you. You will need to find a Commissioner of Oaths, anyone will do, from anywhere. Even from Klang, its alright. It is to ensure you agree to the terms of the Kelulusan Kebenaran Merancang MBPJ for your House Renovations.

Once this document is signed, the MBPJ Officer will take it back. So make a copy.

What does it look like ? Here it is below for Lowyat folks :-

So I had to go to the Commissioner for Oaths the next day. From what I can say, I could recommend this place :

Need a Commisioner for Oaths in PJ ? Lowyatt folks can go to SS2 to this place. Fast, quick, and cost 4 bucks for your documents to be chopped and signed

This lady maam works super fast, was in and out in 5 minutes. To get your Commissioner of Oaths signature from here, the cost was just 4 bucks.


So that got taken cared of this morning.


Now I have

1. Handed back these documents back to the MBPJ Officer who will then - 
2. Submit this back to the -
3. Town Planner who will sign them and then - 
4. Submit it back to the - 
5. Planning Department at MBPJ who will then 
6. Get the plans endorsed by the Director and assistant Director of MBPJ's Planning Department.

And then, yes then my chai latte avacado toast lowyatt hipsters, THEN, we are DONE with Kebenaran Merancang and it will be finally over.

When that happens ? Ill certainly treat myself to one of those lowyatt wagyu steaks that lowyatt folks and contractors have for dinner every evening at Marinis on 57.

Im guessing it will still take another month to complete the journey on the Kebenaran Merancang for our Home Renovation in Petaling Jaya, BUT Keep in mind, there is still the Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan that needs approval. But this will take 1 - 2 months in addition for approvals.

By Chinese New Year next year, or just after, We should have the place flattened. And with more hair loss that lowyat people will never understand with their ipads checking out this blog to get upgraded to God Status.



WHAT TO DO NOW :

1. ENGINEERS PLANS
Get this done NOW. As soon as you can, this is where remember our Soil Investigation done last year in August 2017 ? We will need to know what size of footings to use, ground, ceiling and floor beams.

The rush is now on to get your Engineers Plans.

The reason for this is because unlike Architects Plans that are only useful for ID hipsters who will begin imagining every generic over saturated hipster themed industrial ala nonya style theme with pathetic framed slogans and charge you for your lack of brain cells that were not created for being more creative, a hefty penny, (boy that was a handful), your ENGINEERS PLANS are what your CONTRACTORS NEED. 

I miss this red shirt dude I call Gus. Soil Penetration done in August 2017

You will need to submit this as fast as you can to your contractors so they will be able to quote you correctly based on the Engineers Plans. Submit your .dwg autocad drawings to the Engineer who will then start drawing the footings and beams etc.

The Engineer will also submit the Soil Investigation for Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan as well. The Soil Investigation report is a huge document. That I cant post all of it here. So the Soil Investigation Report was important after all. We are not building something out of guess work.

This is very important because you will need to move swiftly to point number 2 as well.


2. CONTACTORS
It is just about this stage when you must already have about 3 contractors in hand. I have chosen to look at 5 for comparison purposes to make a decision. So far I have found 3. All CIDB certified. No Eric and Eng Hoe's here.

Lai Lai Lai, Conman Contractor. I smell money in my pocket this 2019 CNY

If you cant find enough contractors that are CIDB certified, just head over to the CIDB website at the following link so you can look up contractors from G1 - even G7. In my case, I just need up to a G2 contractor that is allowed up to 500k for contracts. You can look up yourself what G1 - G7 means.

http://cimsapp.cidb.gov.my/SMIS/regcontractor/reglocalsearchcontractor.vbhtml

3. ARCHITECT
As soon as you sit down with your engineer, get your Architect ready as well for the plans to be submitted for your Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan.

Okay folks, I will only blog next when all is done. So its going to be about another month, end of November before things are all done. Please stay tuned as always.

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ALSO TO START LOOKING AT 

It is a good time to also start looking at 2 things. Electrical and Plumbing. They too will need to be CIDB Certified if you want your home to obtain a CCC( Certificate of Compliance and Completion)


ELECTRICAL 
Its not just about looking at how many lights, fans, airconds, water heaters and plug points that is important alone. You will need to know some knowledge about cables, wires, DB Boxes, MCB's Amps etc and what wire thicknesses you will like to use. And if there's any looping involved for switeches.

PLUMBING
A good time to start researching the different materials for your plumbing. Your material that you would like to use for your incoming hoses, water pump, what kind of plastics you would be using and where. Some pipes will just need a HDPE pipe for outdoors, most will use Class 6 / 7 UPVC for indoors. Lowyatt folks use Gold of course.

Even your sewage pipe materials that you would like to use will make a difference as well. So do some research. Lowyatt folks also use Gold for their sewage pipes too. Because their poop comes from Mount Olympus.

To this I will give lowyat credit where its due. There are many articles that have been covered on these things so Im not going to delve any further. Yes, the one and only time lowyatt folks get credit. Thats all.

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I wont blog any further till all is done with my Kebenaran Merancang officially. I will post again very soon. We will move into the Building Plans / Pelan Bangunan with MBPJ soon and have more to cover on this.

MBPJ OSC Meeting Approved Finally - Kelulusan Mesyuarat OSC

Its 6 45 PM, the 1st of October, the beginning of the last quarter of the year. I Just got a message from the MBPJ Officer saying that the OSC Meeting has had good news and my plans have been appoved.

Turns out that the OSC meeting was held in Johor this time. I guess it was probably due to the PKR Johor elections that caused council members to lend their support in Johor.

Looking at the OSC Online, nothing has been uploaded yet, but I hope there's something that gets posted soon to show you all.

Today I get to relax a moment.

Months of bitching, fighting, arguing and to get to this point have now come to some relief. Its not the end yet because down below, is some shitty news.

But its a relief that plans have been approved by those who matter most. That too without the help of our 58k Architect friends that said "My father MAY know someone on the board". 

WHAT NOW ?

Now, we have to wait for whats called a Mesyuarat Penuh Bulanan MBPJ that comes 1 time a month. Yes once a month. Yes, more waiting. Because waiting and paperwork is what Malaysians excel in life at Government offices :)

So it looks like another 4 weeks will have to pass by before that takes place. Traditionally it is no later than the 28th of every month. But it looks like I really have the best of all luck, for this month its on the 30th  :)

Yes, its on the 30th of October which is a whole month away. That could mean Im getting the full 67 days grunt of the MBPJ approval time :)


You can find the OSC and Mesyuarat Majlis meetings here at the following link every month :-

http://www.mbpj.gov.my/ms/rakyat/jadual-minit-mesyuarat

Its shitty that our OSC Meeting in Spetember was held 2 days AFTER the MBPJ Full Meeting. Now I will have to wait till the 30th of October. This makes up for a 33 day loss. Goyang telur la apa lagi ? Makan kuih minum teh

In Conclusion : Time your OSC Meeting and your MBPJ Full Meeting well.

Can you imagine if I had submitted my plans for the OSC meeting above on the 22nd, and could have got approvals by MBPJ Full meeting on the 30th. Thats just progress in 8 short days. As compared to my 33 day goyang telur wait.

These political issues this year have fucked things up pretty well. Which is very annoying.....no, frustrating. I have lost a total of over 30 days based on pre elections, 2 days post elections and now 33 days more.  

But Im sure lowyatt hipsters, Eng Hoe and Eric contractors can solve even an annual monthly meeting for you by the end of the day. Because they are Gods given knowledge to how the world works. 

See you guys again, just before the month ends. And to you lowyatt hipsters :- 

Que sound *** Door latch opens ***

- LEVEL UNLOCKED -

Now you lowyatt hipsters can do more "PM me on the side" after reading this from your Cheras bedrooms. :)



UPDATE : 3/10/2018

3rd October 2018, turns out that on the 2nd of October, OSC Online had uploaded their OSC Meeting Approval letter.

Dear lowyatt hipsters, this is just an update for your God status to be unlocked so you can now "PM Me On The Side"

It says 2nd October at 6 pm in the evening

Clicking on the feedback this is what it says

MBPJ OSC Online Approval Letter

Try looking up MBPJ OSC Meeting Kelulusan for House Renovations online. Im sure you will be able to find information on lowyatt.

Now folks, you must note here that with this letter, it only concludes what MBPJ OSC Councillors have approved my plans during their meeting.

Planning Department will officially send the Surat Kelulusan soon. They have after all, all the time in the world to do this before the 30th of October.

We have 4 more steps to go to complete Kebenaran Merancang now.