Survey works and Soil Investigation Works to me, if you time it just right, could work almost hand in hand during the same time if planned well. This could save you a few days or a week. I guess we are doing things step by step with the kind architects advise.
Soil Investigation works that will be done to your property will include the 2 common tests.
1. SPT Test which stands for Soil Penetration Test - To retrieve 5 samples
2. Mackintosh Probe Test
You may have a question here
What happens during your SPT and Mackintosh Probe Test ?
SPT : A large machine will Bore a hole close to the center of your land as possible. It is dug up till 40 meters deep OR till they find hard soil. Whichever comes first.
On average around the 15 - 20 meter mark is when you will find Hard Rock.
Every 0.5 meters, soil is collected. The collected soil will be sent to the lab for data to be given to your Civil Engineer.
This is simply trying to see how deep your Solid Rock surface is below you.
Mackintosh Probe Test : 6 points around your property (4 corners included) will be tested by a simple hand operated device. The device will be just like hammering a rod with a hammer like shaft. Each hammer is called a Blow. The test will be to reach 15 meters or reach 400 blows. Whichever reaches first.
Its best to reach 400 blows first before reaching the 15 meters mark.
With the test above, you cant find thorough and proper information with real life experience on lowyatt.
All you have is a forum once again about insecure people having no answers to a question. Just cheap opinions without solutions. Take Exhibit A below :
So this Gentleman wants to extend his Kitchen on Mining Land, so he opened up a topic. Where ? Lowyatt
Oh really ? With your 7 postings you say Boreholes ? As in Plural ? Not Singular ? Really ? 1 Borehole is not enough ? What solution are you providing yiawhui ? Will your solution comply to your local town council or Engineers requirements ? Are you an Engineer ? Do you work for MBPJ ?
And then someone gives an answer like this. Kudos to your 1 star solution. Just as good as yiawhui. Fucking genious. Cause you do Soil Testing everyday right alekfegurson ? You sound like an Engineer yourself saying just a strip of foundation is enough. You MUST be the Engineer we have been looking for. And you dare say "this is normally how the nerd would tell". Whose the nerd now Mr. Just a strip of foundation is enough ?
If you really dont want to be trapped with Lowyatt topics if you are extending, renovating, or even demolishing and rebuilding like me, heres some professional advise below :-
FUCKING ASK AN EXPERT'S OPINION
If you are sick, go to a DOCTOR. Not Lowyatt
Building / Doing something to your Home ? Go ask an Architect if he can recommend you an ENGINEER. Not Lowyatt
Even our Architect cant advise us on Soil Testing so how can Lowyatt ? But our Arhitect knew the symptoms, so he suggested to see an Engineer. Our Architect didnt recommend Lowyatt though. Strange,..... thought alekfegurson would have made an EXCELLENT Engineer ! Trust me am good at judging characters, he would have made a good one. All of lowyatt today worships him.
So you see, in the end there was no solution in this topic as well. You can never get the deep answers with the right experience from start till end with lowyatt. Just a bunch of lowyatt fuckers scaring and misleading shit till kingdom comes. Fucking lowyatt.
So Im sharing this here for you to know what will happen. And am sure after this every lowyatt person who reads this will be upgraded to God Status.
Looking at Soil Investigation Works, it seems this will be a requirement to be done for the Civil Engineer Mr. Dalee, as well as for MBPJ.
SO SHOULD I DO ANY SOIL TESTING ?
Some may think its not required such as lowyatt, but this is what is needed on paper before submissions so we have to do it. Because an Engineer in MBPJ too will be looking at your soil as well. Even if they dont look at it, you still need it.
Its like the fine print - some will read it, most will not. But its there to sign off on.
If I was simply extending a portion of the Home, I wouldnt have needed to do this at all.
I contacted Mr. Ibrahim who works for GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD on the 4th of August.
The same day as I had picked up my Survey Plans. The company Mr. Ibrahim works for is called GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD.
Below is my quote of how much these works would cost for the Standard Penetration Test (Bore Hole) and the Mackintosh Probe Test WITH Lab Testing to be conducted.
Its a modest quote, and a fair price according to my Architect
Whats that again lowyatt people ? Refresh my memory yiawhui
Thats right, 5 - 10 k for BoreholeS with an S. Plural not Singular. 7 posts with sound adviseS. Keep in mind, this is 2011 when yiawhui posted this and mentioned 5 - 10k. I paid as per the quote above. Its now 2017. This is why lowyatt people who drive Myvis actually have 500,000 in their account.
Sounds like a decent name GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD. but as you will soon see, the chaps are a pretty funny bunch of characters.
Anyway, I received a quote within the same day, on the 4th of August 2017 towards the later part of the evening. I asked Mr. Sarizal if the price was alright and he said was a fair price. This was a Friday so I just signed on the quote and emailed it back as my confirmation.
I had also sent Mr. Ibrahim of GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS my Survey Plan showing where the property was, where the grass was, and where concrete was. Do this if you are engaging in a Soil Investigator.
My Survey Plan that I indicated where grass was. Still ended up having to dig through concrete anyway.
X Marks the spot. Thats where the Bore Hole will be done. The deepest of all Holes to be dug
Shortly after I received an email back showing where the SPT and Mackintosh Probe Tests will be conducted.
X Marks the spot. Thats where the Bore Hole will be done. The deepest of all Holes to be dug
DAY 1
Wednesday came and boy oh boy did it pour so the only thing that could be done was to put the machine and equipment in place for the next day. Here is the SPT Machine for the Bore Hole. Was around 5 : 30 when it finally showed up.
Neighbors being kepoh chi had all gathered to have a look what was going on like something terrible had just impacted their lives. Dogs were barking, old fart neighbors looked like it was a revisit of world war 2 coming to ss3. One neighbor though a senior gentleman, walked inside the compound to ask what was going on. I bet you all neighbors that very same night had used their telephone to call each other and spread the word. Actually, what he wanted was a pot left behind by the previous owner.
While bringing down the SPT Machine, I reassured our neighbor it was a Soil Test that was going to be done. They thought construction was going to begin 2 days or something later. Sheesh. Only lowyatt people can get soil tests, surveys, town council approvals and construct buildings in 2 days. Cause they do this everyday like alekfugurson.
On the left are the Bore Hole cylinder cases. In the middle are the tubes that will bore into the ground to collect soil sample up to 40 meters down. On the right is just a water pump for the SPT Machine
Now look, if you think these guys are going to show up in a very expensive yellow and black CAT truck with a crane attached to its back, staff wearing jumpers or overalls with reflective strips, goggles, safety hats with timberland boots like they were going to drill oil off an oil rig from the sea,....
You got it fucking wrong.
This is where lowyatt people can pay 50,000 for all I care for their fucking Soil Investigation, but not me. I just wanted to get my information extracted.
What lowyatt people think they get. Your dreams are about to be crushed
These guys from GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD. were a chatty bunch of dudes who woke up the neighborhood. In some sense this was good reminder to the kepoh chi neighbors, cause this would be an indication of things to come and what to expect.
And what was to be expected was noise levels in future with heavy machinery and concrete trucks with pumps and the whole works. They would have to accept that this is what is going to be done. Especially if they too are banking on rejuvenating the neighborhood and increasing the value of the road, let alone property.
It was a good signal that shit was about to get real. So heres was a warning to all - Noise WILL come.
These guys from GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS will smoke, rip your garden apart-i-dont-give-a-fuck way of working. What I can say though is, yes you pay for what you get. The only rule I gave these dudes was
"You wanna smoke, can, but dont you think about throwing your butts anywhere you want".
I gave my rule, that was it, they obeyed, they could play with their own turd for all I care and throw it at each other and I didnt care, just get my extractions.
These were chicken rice people, not Medium Done Steak eating contractors.
DAY 2
On the 10th of August work finally commenced. Its a strange year having rain and cloudy weather during August. But work commenced and this is when the SPT Machine was put to place to drill a hole that would then reach its maximum depth till it finds Sound Rock.
I was glad I was there during this time. I saw the beginning of what will be a hole being dug to somewhere I would never reach and see. Its kinda like the Kola Superdeep.
Here are some images of Day 2
The SPT Machine was moved to its Bore Hole position. Or should I say Bore Hole Machine. Took about half an hour to move 20feet. Lowyatt people can do this in 2 minutes
When the hole was dug on the surface. Was penetrated somewhere in the middle of the land. Yes they dug through tile
Whe the hole was first dug before the cylinders were inserted to begin proper Bore Hole work
I left for work about an hour in. As long as I was there to witness the beginning, I was happy.
DAY 3
So I came back the next day and they had already reached 6 meters. Here are some images.
Work commenced on this morning with the rain and drizzle
These 3 guys are a chatty bunch. One even took clay and made a penis. Hilarious. Didnt know what to say, to fuck them up or laugh. In the end I laughed.
Inserting the probe with a collet that collects the soil every 0.5 meters down. That tip that this gentleman is holding will contain soil collected for the lab to test
The soil below begins to turn white ish which indicated its still soft soil / clay ish soil. That was probably used to make their clay penis
6 meters down, I was lucky to view what the soil was like during their probe
6 meters in and it was still soft soil. The chap drilling the hole mentioned that he reaches hard soil around 15 - 20 meters deep on average. So at 6 meters I was not going to expect anything yet. So I had nothing to worry about.
The soil while being drilled, will begin to turn white ish which looks like clay. It will still be soft soil. It will eventually hit Solid Rock at a particular depth, and thats it.
So this, lowyatt folks, is what you will now post all over forums claiming you will be the biggest genius who knows more than any other "common" lowyatt folks. Welcome to Lowyatt God status
At every 0.5 meters, soil is collected through the Bore Hole's probe and kept aside.
Soil from 3 meters down collected in a bag
Shown here is soil collected at 1.5 meters down
Soil from 3 meters down collected in a bag
Once Sound Rock / Solid Rock is reached, drilling will stop and soil will be collected from its deepest point at Solid Rock.
DAY 4
Its the 12th of August 2017, Its a Saturday. I walked into my home and no one was working there, I took a look around and saw some notes on the ground on a piece of cardboard that it was 16.5 - 16.9 meters so thats where they had stopped on Friday.
DAY 5
Monday had come but these dudes had some kursus that they had to attend. They didnt inform me but I had asked when they were going to come back and they said Tuesday, which is today the 15th of August.
I paid my place a visit and saw them still digging. Man this seems like this kinda stuff is pretty long. Its good though they didnt come on Saturday. Being a caring neighbor I too didnt want that really loud machine turned on. The Boring Machine / SPT Machine really sounds like the worlds loudest grass cutter. And its diesel stench is pretty strong.
The soil today had changed colour though to a more brownish colour. Im guessing its going even deeper now
Soil now begins to look brownish yellow. We will be most likely hitting Solid Rock today
According to the supervisor, in my area of Petaling Jaya, you would usually find Solid Rock / Hard Surface when you arrive around the 20 - 30 meter mark. Wow thats pretty deep I guess. Well the maximum these guys can bore at will be 40 meters.
Before leaving, the Bore Hole reached 18 - 18.5 meters. This is 2.5 days of Boring so far. With this, Im guessing reaching Solid Rock wont be far now, and Solid Rock we finally reached today...
As of 3 30 PM today, 15th August 2017, we finally reached Solid Rock at 19.5 meters.
What happens now is that you will have to dig 5 samples from the point of Solid Rock Penetration and then the SPT Test is complete.
I told the guy that when he reaches Solid Rock to just whatsapp me when they have reached. But the dude didnt. Lucky I called.
Looks like those 2 - 3 weeks of work for just soil testing might after all be true. And we still have not reached the Mackintosh part yet.
At 5 15 PM today, I received a call from our shitty illegally built house neighbor who said the machine was still going on and smoke was being blown into her premise. Lowyatt old farts. Its alright for them to build shit illegally, but not us.
Well at least the dudes got 3 samples so far so the shitty neighbors will have to bear with us for another 2 more samples before things are completed.
Well lets comply first and see what happens in future. Well, our first complaint. How fun !
IN SUMMARY
So because Im a caring Malaysian who wants to share information instead of being on lowyatt, this is what you can expect from Soil Penetration works by drilling a Bore Hole. This is how much it would cost today, in 2017, and not in 2011. So if you are going to do something in Petaling Jaya, or for that matter anywhere in Selangor, hopefully this information has helped.
If you want advise, go to the right person. The only right advise I can give is for your to take it from the right person. In which this case your Architect or Engineer.
If you want a fair - priced - service, you may use the following details unlike lowyatt folk who would only say
"PM Me on the Side"
Just to make extra money off you with wrong advise.
CONTACT DETAILS OF SOIL INVESTIGATOR
GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD. may be reached with the following details :-
GEOSCIENCE SOLUTIONS SDN. BHD.
E-05-02, SERAI WANGI M16/M
ALAM AVENUE 2, SEKSYEN 16
40000, SHAH ALAM
CONTACT PERSON : MR. IBRAHIM
H/P NO : 019 272 4005
TEL NO : 03-5524 5844
Now go on lowyatt and claim you have done Soil Testings like you do it everyday and give advise. Fucking Lowyatt people.
Next up will be the Mackintosh Probe Test. The most boring test where you whack what looks like a penis into the ground to see if it reaches 400 blows or more.
That was a joke by the way
E-05-02, SERAI WANGI M16/M
ALAM AVENUE 2, SEKSYEN 16
40000, SHAH ALAM
CONTACT PERSON : MR. IBRAHIM
H/P NO : 019 272 4005
TEL NO : 03-5524 5844
Now go on lowyatt and claim you have done Soil Testings like you do it everyday and give advise. Fucking Lowyatt people.
Next up will be the Mackintosh Probe Test. The most boring test where you whack what looks like a penis into the ground to see if it reaches 400 blows or more.
That was a joke by the way
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